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tom_ep
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: Rules/issues |
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A raider/venom goes into difficult terrain, takes a dangerous terrain test and rolls a '1'. Invulnerable save from flickerfield allowed?
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yekcim
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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A Space Marine Captain on moto goes into difficult terrain, takes a dangerous terrain test and rolls a '1'. Invulnerable save allowed?
Yes, so it's the same for the flickerfield in my opinion, because there is no condition on the save (such as only for shooting...).
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tom_ep
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| yekcim wrote: | A Space Marine Captain on moto goes into difficult terrain, takes a dangerous terrain test and rolls a '1'. Invulnerable save allowed?
Yes, so it's the same for the flickerfield in my opinion, because there is no condition on the save (such as only for shooting...).
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See, that's exactly what I was fearing. Unfortunately the venom/raider is a vehicle, and as such has to adhere to the rules for vehicles and terrain (page 57). A vehicle that rolls a 1 halts immediately and suffers an immobilised result. Which implies that there is never any kind of save involved so not sure the Venom/Raider should get one...
Page 14 has no bearing on this as it mentions 'wounds' and a vehicle can never be wounded? |
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yekcim
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Page 14 has no bearing on this as it mentions 'wounds' and a vehicle can never be wounded |
Yes, but if it was the case, then the invulnerable save would never be allowed since nowhere in the rulebook it says something about it.
That's the problem when GW add a new rule to a unit not anticipated in the rulebook (such as psyker vehicules) and not yet corrected with a FAQ.
But for me, as véhicule does not suffer wound, you have to replace "wound" with "damage" on the p°14. And since the effect of terrain is a damage (even if a fixed one), you get your save.
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